|“||He doesn't want us to cut through our chains....he wants us to cut through our feet.||”|
— Lawrence realizes that he and Adam were abducted by Jigsaw[src]
Dr. Lawrence Gordon, also known as Larry, is a fictional character from the Saw franchise as well as one of the main protagonists of the first Saw film and the tertiary protagonist of Saw 3D. He was portrayed by Cary Elwes.
Lawrence Gordon was a doctor and a graduate of Charnell University, where he was granted a degree in medical oncology. Afterwards, he began his career as a successful oncologist at the Angel of Mercy Hospital. He was the husband of Alison Gordon and father of Diana Gordon. At one point, however, he and Alison were plunged into a marital crisis, because over time, it became unbearable for his wife to deal with the increasingly cold and emotionless attitude of her husband. Eventually, Lawrence started to have an affair with Carla, one of his students from the hospital. (Saw)
Throughout his career as an oncologist, Lawrence regularly had to inform numerous cancer patients about their impending, unavoidable death. One of these patients was the civil engineer John Kramer, who Lawrence diagnosed with colon cancer and a frontal lobe tumor. However, during an earlier visit at the hospital, one of the residents, Dr. Logan Nelson made a careless mistake and inadvertently mixed up John's x-rays with those of another patient, Alex Rubinstein. Therefore, his cancer had further evolved and was no longer treatable at the time of its diagnosis. (Saw, Jigsaw)
Suspect in the Jigsaw Case
A few months later, John returned to the hospital for a routine examination to observe the evolvement of his tumor and John's worsening health. On this occasion, Lawrence introduced him to his students, including Carla, but was interuppted by Zep Hindle, one of the orderlies, who reminded him that John was a very interesting person, because Lawrence continuously only called him "the patient." Obviously annoyed by this interruption, Lawrence sarcastically thanked Zep for the information. As Zep left and Lawrence was about to continue his medical round, he was once again interrupted and called to his office. When he entered it, he was greeted by Detective David Tapp and Detective Steven Sing, two homicide detectives of the Metropolitan Police Department, who asked him about his whereabouts in the previous night between 23 o'clock and 1 o'clock. When Lawrence asked Tapp for the reason of that question, the latter showed him a penlight with Gordon's fingerprints on it, which had been found at the crime scene of one of the deadly games set up by the Jigsaw Killer.
Lawrence was taken to the police station for further interrogation. Eventually, he told his friend and lawyer, Brett, that he had a rendezvous with his mistress, Carla, at the time of the game. On Brett's advice, Lawrence told the police about his alibi, because Brett believed that nobody would believe him later on. Even though his alibi proved to be true, Detective Sing asked him to stay a little longer and listen to the testimony of a drug addict named Amanda Young, the only known survivor of one of Jigsaw's game at that time. Lawrence agreed and was shocked by Amanda's story, who had been forced to eviscerate a living man in order to obtain a key from his stomach, which she needed to free herself from a gruesome trap. Afterwards, Tapp drove him home, made it abundantly clear that he still wasn't fully convinced of the doctor's innocence. When his partner died in one of Jigsaw's traps shortly afterwards and he was discharged from the police force, Tapp became obsessed with the idea of Lawrence being the killer and mainly focused on his observation from then on. (Saw)
Five months after Amanda's interrogation, Lawrence worked in his office at home, when he was interrupted by Alison and Diana. When Diana told him that there was a scary man in her room, Lawrence put her back to bed and managed to cheer her up for a moment. However, only moments later, he was paged by Carla, who asked him to come to the Hotel Barfly. Lawrence told Diana and Alison that he had to go back to work and left the apartment, much to his wife's displeasure. When he arrived at the run-down hotel shortly afterwards, he visited Carla in her room and rebuked her for paging him while he was at home. As she was about to undress herself, he held her back and decided to end their affair as it had become too risky for him. When he wanted to leave, the phone rang and an anonymous caller demanded to speak with Lawrence. Lawrence took the phone and was warned that the caller knew about his affair, which caused him to leave hectically. On the way to his car, he suddenly noticed the flash of a camera. However, instead of further worrying about it, he got into his car, only to realize that he was trapped in the parking garage. However, neither his mobile nor the emergency telephone seemed to work. During his repeated attempts to make a call, he didn't notice how a person with a pig mask, who had been hiding on the back seat of his car, sneaked up on him and eventually attacked and subdued him. (Saw)
Following his abduction, Lawrence was taken to a dilapidated underground bathroom, where one of John Kramer, the actual Jigsaw Killer, and Amanda Young, his accomplice, had prepared a deadly game for him. He was chained to a pipe in the corner of the room by his right leg. While Amanda chained the young Adam Stanheight, Lawrence's opponent in his game, to a pipe in the opposite corner and prepared him for the game, John poured a bucket of fake blood on the floor in the middle of the room and injected himself with a medicament that slowed his heart rate and relaxed his muscles. Once they had finished all of their preparations, Amanda took Adams shoes and belt as well as the things they had used to set up the game, and was about to leave. John, however, stayed in the room and lay down in the puddle of blood with a tape recorder in one hand and a revolver in the other, which fully gave him the appearance of a suicide victim. Then, Amanda turned off the light, left the room and closed the heavy sliding door behind her. (Saw, Saw III)
When Lawrence woke up shortly afterwards, he quickly realized that he wasn't alone as he heard the frightened screams of his fellow prisoner. When he eventually found a switch and turned on the light, he saw that Adam was trapped in the same way as him. Adam further panicked when he saw the body of John Kramer, which was covered in blood. Lawrence, however, managed to calm him down. After introducing himself, he asked Adam whether he knew the dead man or remembered how he ended up in the bathroom, which he denied. Despite his fear and distrust, he finally told Lawrence his name as well. Meanwhile, the latter pointed out that their abductor could have killed them already and concluded that he or she wanted something from them. As he further examined the room, he noticed a clock on the wall, which was factory-fresh, as opposed to the environment, and thereby concluded that their abductor wanted them to know what time it was.
While Lawrence tried to open the sliding door, which was within his reach, Adam suddenly found a white envelope with his name on it in his pants pocket. It included a cassette with the message "Play me" written on it. Lawrence also found such an envelope in his pocket. Besides another cassette, it also included a key as well as a single bullet. He immediately tried to use the key on his shackle. As this attempt remained unsuccessful, he threw the key to Adam, who couldn't free himself either. Moments later, Adam noticed the tape recorder in John's hand. However, as it was out of reach, he tried to use his shirt to get possession of it. When this didn't work, he eventually tied the plug from the bathtub to one of the sleeves. After some more attempts, he finally managed to obtain the recorder when the plug got caught up in a loop attached to it.
When he put the tape into the recorder and started the recording, a distorted voice gave him a gruesome ultimatum. His abductor mockingly confronted him with his voyeurism and his work, which basically consisted of spying on other people. On this day, he would watch himself die, unless he did something about it. Once the tape was over, Lawrence asked him for the recorder so he could listen to his own recording. Out of fear that he could destroy the recorder by throwing it across the room, Adam refused and demanded the tape from Lawrence, which Lawrence eventually threw to him after briefly protesting against it. His tape had been recorded by the same distorted voice, which confronted him with the fact that he gave people the news of their impending death on every day of his working life. Now it was his task to cause the death of another human himself. The voice demanded that he killed Adam by 6 o'clock. Otherwise, his daughter, Diana, and his wife, Alison, would be killed, while he himself would be left to die in the bathroom. Furthermore, the voice told him that there were numerous clues and useful tools hidden in the bathroom, which could help him to solve his task. One of these clues was a cryptic message, according to which an "X marked the spot for the treasure." Additionally, the voice told him about the seemingly dead John Kramer, pointing out that the only thing left to do, when there was that much poison in one's blood, was to shoot oneself.
Once the recording ended, Lawrence once again demanded the recorder from Adam, which the latter now gave him without hesitation. Upon repeatedly winding the tape back and forwards, he discovered one final clue. At the end of the recording, he heard the voice whispering the words "Follow your heart." Seconds later, he noticed a heart drawn on the water tank of a toilet right next to Adam. Despite his disgust, Adam searched the dirty toilet, albeit unsuccessful. Just when he searched the tank, he found a black plastic back inside, which contained two hacksaws. Adam immediately tried to saw through his chain, while he threw the other saw to the doctor. As both of them tried to cut through their chains, Adams saw broke after a few seconds. He angrily threw it towards one the mirrors on the wall, causing a single shard to break out. When Lawrence's attempts to free himself remained unsuccessful as well, the latter eventually came to the conclusion that the saws weren't meant to cut through their chains, but rather to cut off their feet. Thereby, he realized that they had been abducted by the Jigsaw Killer and told Adam, how Jigsaw had tried to frame him for one of his murders when he had left his penlight at a crime scene five months earlier.
Even though he was shocked by the things Lawrence told him about Jigsaw, Adam distrust grew further and for a moment even lead him to the conviction that Lawrence himself had something to do with his abduction. In a fit of rage, he grabbed the shard from the mirror and threatened to kill Lawrence if he didn't tell him what was going on around them. However, he stopped when he realized that the shard belonged to a one-way mirror. With pieces from broken tiles, he smashed the mirror, causing the glass to break entirely. In doing so, he discovered a camera, which was positioned behind the mirror. To his anger, it was protected by a second, shatterproof glass pane. Lawrence tried to convince him to calm down and concentrate on Jigsaw's clues instead of becoming exasperated with the camera. When Adam subsequently asked him whether he even thought about the things Jigsaw could do to his family in the meantime, Lawrence told him about the final conversation with Diana at the night of his abduction.
Thereby, he managed to put oil on troubled waters and told Adam about his family. Adam asked him whether he wanted more children, Lawrence denied this as it was already hard enough for him and his wife to do justice to Diana. During their conversation, Lawrence threw his wallet to Adam so he could take a look at some photos of Diana. However, when Adam searched the wallet for a picture of Lawrence's wife, he told him it wasn't there and threw it back to him. Upon searching the wallet himself, he came to the conclusion that their abductor must've stolen it.
When Adam's uncooperative attitude caused another argument between him and Gordon, he finally asked him to turn off the light, which Gordon did, despite being sceptical. Upon doing so, they spotted glowing "X" on the wall, which hadn't been visible in the light, leading Adam to the conclusion that it had been drawn with a special fluorescent paint. By using his saw, Gordon smashed the marked part of the wall and thereby discovered a hollow space with a small box hidden inside. Gordon managed to open it with the key he had found in his envelope at the beginning of his game. It contained a mobile, a lighter, two cigarettes as well as a written message, which told Gordon that the cigarettes were harmless, that he didn't need a gun to kill Adam and that "smoking was only poisonous when it ended in bloodshed." When Adam, who didn't notice any of this, asked him for a cigarette, Gordon denied his wish and instead tried to call the police. To his disappointment, the mobile couldn't be used to make calls, but only to receive them. However, this caused him to remember the night of his abduction.
After telling him about this, Lawrence suddenly asked him how he knew that they had to turn off the light. When Adam claimed it was due to his instinct and obviously tried to avoid the question, the men began to argue once again until Adam finally revealed a photo of Lawrence's abducted family, which he had found in the wallet instead of the missing picture. Prompted by his fear for Diana and Alison, Lawrence thought about another way out and came up with a plan. Unnoticed by Adam, he dipped one of the cigarettes into the blood of the lifeless body of John Kramer, which, according to Jigsaw's clues, had to be poisoned. Afterwards, he turned off the lights and told Adam about his plan, which required him to fake his death. When he turned the lights on again, he threw the second, harmless cigarette and the lighter to Adam. Moments later, Adam pretended to collaps due to the poison. However, their plan failed when Adam received an electric shock from his shackle, which caused him to panic once again, while Lawrence was angry and blamed him for the failure of their plan. The shock, however, caused Adam to remember his own abduction.
After he told Lawrence how he had been abducted from his apartment by a person with a pig mask, the phone rang. When Lawrence answered the call, his frightened daughter begged him to save her and her mother. Afterwards, he also spoke with Alison, who warned him not to trust Adam as he had known him long before their game began. When Lawrence confronted him with that warning, Adam finally admitted that he had observed and photographed him throughout the previous days and showed him his photos, which he had found in the bag with the hacksaws. This resulted in an argument, during which Adam revealed that he had followed Lawrence to his rendezvous with his mistress at the Hotel Barfly. Angered by this, Lawrence asked him who hired him, as he was convinced that Adam's client was also their abductor. However, when Adam described the man as a "tall black guy with a scar around his neck", Lawrence realized that it was Detective Tapp, who was convinced that he was the Jigsaw Killer and blamed him for the death of his partner five months earlier.
When the two of them lapsed into silence again, Adam suddenly noticed that one of the photos wasn't from him. It showed a man standing at the window of Lawrence's bedroom, but Lawrence claimed that, besides Diana and Alison, nobody had been in their apartment the night before. Therefore, Adam showed him the picture, causing the shocked doctor to recognize the man as Zep Hindle. Seconds later, Adam realized that the time of their game was over. Shortly afterwards, the mobile rang again. To Lawrence's surprise, he heard his wife's voice, who had managed to free herself from the sadistic orderly. However, only moments later, he also heard several gunshots and the desperate screams of his daughter. Therefore, Lawrence started to cry, but suddenly lost his consciousness when he received an electric shock from his shackle.
Adam immediately tried to wake him up and was afraid that Lawrence was dead, when the latter regained his consciousness. However, due to the events, Lawrence suffered a breakdown, which became even worse when the phone rang again but was beyond his reach, as he had inadvertently thrown it away when he was electrocuted. In a last desperate attempt to save his family, he used his shirt to stanch his leg and, despite Adam's attempts to calm him down, began to cut off his foot. After he had managed to free himself from his chain, he crawled to the middle of the room and took the revolver from John Kramer's hand. Then, he used the bullet from his envelope and shot the frightened Adam, who collapsed immediately. Shocked by what he had done, Lawrence screamed at the camera and begged for the life of his family.
Moments later, the door was opened and Zep Hindle entered the bathroom. Lawrence frantically tried to shoot him, even though he had no more bullets. Unimpressed by this, Zep aimed his gun at him and wanted to kill him as he didn't finish his task in time. However, before he could do it, he was attacked by Adam as the bullet had only injured his shoulder. As the two of them lay on the floor and fought with each other, Adam managed to disarm his enemy and smashed his head with the lid of the toilet tank. When Lawrence finally convinced him to stop, Adam started to cry due to his pain. Lawrence told him that he'd bleed to death if he stayed with him and promised to get help. Despite Adam's desperate attempts to hold him back, the severely injured doctor crawled out of the room. (Saw)
Due to his injury and the severe loss of blood, Lawrence didn't make it very far. Shortly after his escape, he reached a hot steaming pipe in one of the subterranean hallways leading to the bathroom. After initially hesitating, he pressed his stump against the pipe in order to cauterize the wound. Even though this was successful, he lost his consciousness due to immense pain. Shortly afterwards, he was found by John Kramer, who had followed his blood trail. As he dragged him away, Lawrence briefly regained his consciousness and recognized his patient, who smiled at him and congratulated him for his survival, before he passed out again. John took his doctor with him. When Lawrence woke up again, he started to panic, but calmed down when John treated his wound and adjusted a prosthesis to his stump. Because of this, he began to trust John and ultimately agreed to become his accomplice and assist in his future games. After his treatment, John let him go. (Saw 3D)
After the disturbing events in the bathroom, Lawrence quit his job at the Angel of Mercy Hospital and began to work at the Saint Eustace Hospital from then on. Furthermore, he joined a self-help group of other survivors of Jigsaw's games, who met at a local church. (Saw VI, Saw 3D)
Throughout the following weeks and months, Lawrence helped John with the preparations of several other games, by offering him his medical knowledge and surgical skills. The victim of one of these games was Michael Marks, an informant of the corrupt detective Eric Matthews. After his abduction, Lawrence performed a surgery on the young man, during which he placed a key behind Michael's right eye. This key would later become the only way for Michael to save himself from one of Jigsaw's traps, a so-called death mask. (Saw II, Saw 3D)
Six months later, Lawrence suggested to abduct the surgeon Dr. Lynn Denlon, who worked at the Angel and Mercy Hospital, and force her to participate in what was likely going to be John's final game. It should be her task to keep the severely weakened John alive until her husband, Jeff Denlon, managed to overcome a series of tests. The reason for choosing Lynn, besides her connection with Jeff, were here formidable surgical skills. (Saw III, Saw 3D)
Two weeks before the beginning of the final game, Lawrence helped John to prepare another test. The persons tested in this game were Art Blank, John's former business partner an lawyer, as well as a second man named Trevor. After their abduction, Lawrence performed another surgery on both of them, during which he sutured Art's mouth and Trevor's eyes, so it would be impossible for them to communicate during their test. After finishing these preparations, the two of them were taken to a mausoleum, where their game was going to take place. (Saw IV, Saw 3D)
As he had expected it himself, John was killed by Jeff Denlon during his game. After that, another accomplice of John, Detective Mark Hoffman, continued the deadly tests of his mentor, without knowing Lawrence's involvement in John's work. Lawrence sent him an anonymous letter with the message "I know who you are." to his office at the police station. (Saw III, Saw V, Saw 3D)
Furthermore, John's ex-wife, Jill Tuck, inherited a black box, which John had previously given to his executor, Bernie Feldman. Besides some other things, the box contained an envelope addressed to Lawrence. In order to carry out the final request of her late ex-husband, she brought the envelope to Lawrence's office at the Saint Eustace Hospital. It contained a video, which John had recorded before his death. He asked Lawrence to watch over Jill after his death and told him to immediately act on his behalf. In return for that, he promised to reveal all of his remaining secrets to him and told him about the room, which was "the most meaningful" to him, thereby hinting at the bathroom, where Lawrence had been tested. (Saw V, Saw VI, Saw 3D)
Shortly after he received the video, Jill revealed Mark Hoffman's true identity to the police. Some time later, Lawrence joined another meeting of his self-help group. On this occasion, he met Bobby Dagen, who had gained fame and recognition for publishing his book "S.U.R.V.I.V.E. - My Story of Overcoming Jigsaw", in which he explains how he himself once survived one of Jigsaw's games and how his life changed afterwards. However, due to his work for John, Lawrence knew that Bobby's story was a lie and therefore sarcastically mocked him for his "remarkable" ability to get something positive out of his horrifying experiences. Bobby, however, tried to act confident and thanked him. Therefore, Gordon and the other confused members of the group applauded him, showing their gratefulness for being part of his story. Later that evening, Bobby and his wife, Joyce, as well as Bobby's crew, which consisted of his publicist, Nina, his lawyer, Suzanne, and his best friend, Cale, were abducted by Hoffman, who forced them to participate in another game. Thereby, he wanted to put the police under pressure in order to get revenge on Jill Tuck, who had been taken into protective custody at that time. (Saw 3D)
Mark Hoffman's Abduction
At the same night, Hoffman put his plan into action and invaded the police station, where he brutally murdered Jill. When the news channels reported her death to the public, Lawrence decided that it was time to intervene and went to Hoffman's hideout in an abandoned Hangar, along with two accomplices. After Hoffman blew up the hangar and was about to flee, the three men attacked him while covering their faces with pig masks. While his accomplices held Hoffman in place, Lawrence injected him with an anesthetic and revealed his identity to the detective. Moments later, Hoffman passed out.
In order to carry out John's last wish, Lawrence and his accomplices took Hoffman to the underground bathroom and chained him to the same pipe as Adam Stanheight's rotten corpse. Shortly afterwards, Lawrence himself entered the room one final time. As he turned on the light, Hoffman woke up. He immediately panicked and tried to grab the hacksaw, which Lawrence had used to cut off his own foot several years earlier. Lawrence, however, picked up the saw and threw it out of the room. While Hoffman yelled at him in anger and despair, Lawrence turned off the light, closed the door and left him to die with the words "Game Over." (Saw 3D)
In other Media
Lawrence's disappearance was mentioned in the "Full Disclosure Report", a documentary, which was focused on Jigsaw's early crimes. As his wife, Alison, refused to be interviewed by the team of the host, Rich Skidmore, some friends of her family were interviewed instead. They revealed details about Alison's captivity and her telephone conversations with Lawrence during that time. When asked if they believed Lawrence to be the Jigsaw Killer, they denied this, stating that Lawrence wouldn't endanger his own family.
Besides the friends of his family, Rich Skidmore's team also interviewed Dr. Michael Alan, one of Lawrence's former colleagues, who worked at the Saint Andrews Wellness Medical Center. On this occasion, he mainly talked about Lawrence's devotion to his job and stated that Lawrence often spent more time at the hospital than he did at home with his family.
Lawrence also appeared in the animated comic Saw: Rebirth, which served as a prequel for the first three films in the series. Like in the films, he was portrayed as a cold, emotionless doctor, who barely cared about the feelings of his patients. This was exceptionally obvious, when he told John about his fatal cancer diagnosis. Just after that, an orderly, Zep Hindle, told John that Lawrence, like many of the doctors at the hospital, cheated on his wife.
In the first video game of the franchise, Detective David Tapp had to face one of Jigsaw's games at the abandoned Whitehurst Insane Asylum. Throughout this game, he found three black boxes in different areas of the clinic, which contained the reports of a doctor. He spoke about another doctor, who had begun a therapy at Whitehurst after suffering an emotional breakdown. This therepay led to a significant improvement of his mental state. Besides details about his mental condition, these reports also contained information about the patient's personal life, such as the impendent birth of his child, which he was looking forward to. According to the psychological profile, the patient was a polite, highly intelligent, narcissistic and mostly emotional person, which leads to the assumption that it could be Lawrence Gordon.
In the second video game, Saw II: Flesh & Blood, David Tapp's son, Michael Tapp, became the primary test subject of another one of Jigsaw's games. During that game, he found numerous documents and audio recordings from his father, which gave more details about his obsession with Lawrence. According to Tapp, Lawrence perfectly fitted the psychological profile of the Jigsaw Killer, especially because he had suffered an emotional breakdown at an early age and therefore had to be admitted to a clinic.
Furthermore, Tapp's documents included several details of the investigation, including Jigsaw's attempt to frame Lawrence for one of his murders, Amanda Young's testimony and Lawrence's alibi at the time of the murder. During that time, one of Tapp's colleagues, Detective Allison Kerry, observed Gordon. Thereby, she was able to observate a meeting between Lawrence and his mistress, Carla Song, in his car. However, according to Kerry, there were no sexual interactions between them.
Besides these reports, Tapp's documents also contained information about Lawrence's work. Lawrence was responsible for the treatment of cancer patients in a terminal stage of their diseases, including John Kramer, Campbell Iman and Charles Carlyle. Tapp assumed that this might have been the reason for Lawrence's cold, clinical and emotionally unstable personality.
Lawrence Gordon was an arrogant man, who barely cared about the people around them, especially his patients. Because of this, he always seemed cold-hearted and emotionally distanced. Most of the time, he was more interested in his work and success rather than interpersonal relationships, which had negatively affected his marriage and family life. As he was proud of his high intellect, he showed signs of a narcissistic personality disorder and therefore often patronized other people.
Nonetheless, Lawrence also had a charming personality, which is proven by Carla, who seemed to have actual feelings for him. Although they had an affair, Lawrence didn't sleep with her, because he genuinely loved his wife, despite their marital problems. He also loved his daughter and tried to be a good father for her. Following his abduction by Jigsaw, Lawrence suffered a breakdown, cut off his own foot and even tried to kill another human being in order to save his own family.
Following his recruitment by John Kramer, he became dedicated to the latter's mission and learned to value his life as well as the lives of those around him. Despite his traumatic experience, which John was responsible for, Lawrence became a loyal supporter of John's work and forced numerous people to participate in their deadly games in order to test their will to live. Upon doing so, he seemingly felt no remorse.
- After the success of the first film, actor Cary Elwes engaged in a legal dispute when the production company, Lionsgate Films, didn't sufficiently pay him for his portrayal of Lawrence Gordon. However, the case was eventually settled out of court.
- After the first film, many fans assumed that Lawrence had become Jigsaw's accomplice. One of the arguments for those theories was the fact that the man, who placed the key behind Michael Marks' eye in Saw II, was limping.
- Lawrence is the only main character who survived from the first film up until the eighth installment.
- Originally, Lawrence was planned to be the main protagonist of Saw III, where he had to save Alison and Diana, who had been abducted by Jigsaw and Amanda once again.
- In Saw and Saw 3D, Lawrence's foot was lying on its right side, but in Saw II and Saw III, it was lying on its left side.
- Originally, Lawrence was planned to appear as a boss fight in Saw: The Video Game, where he covered his face with a pig mask and fought Detective Tapp.
- It is likely that Lawrence was responsible for surgically placing a key behind Campbell Iman's eye in Saw II: Flesh & Blood. It is also possible that he supplied John with the medical instruments, which kept him alive and later became part of Lynn Denlon's game.
- According to the audio commentary of Saw 3D, Alison left Lawrence and took Diana with her as she couldn't deal with his unstable mental condition after the events of the first film.
- The audio commentary of Saw 3D revealed, that the two men, who helped Lawrence to abduct Hoffman, were originally planned to be Brad and Ryan from the beginning of the film.
Appearances and References
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